Discussion:
[Softwires] Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
The IESG
2018-02-12 14:28:15 UTC
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The IESG has received a request from the Softwires WG (softwire) to consider
the following document: - 'A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)'
<draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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Abstract


This document defines a YANG module for the DS-Lite Address Family
Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4) elements.

Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)

Please update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned to
this document:

o "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"

o "RFC XXXX: A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)";

o "reference: RFC XXXX"




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.


The document contains these normative downward references.
See RFC 3967 for additional information:
draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang: A YANG Module for Network Address Translation (NAT) (None - IETF stream)
tom p.
2018-02-20 11:07:15 UTC
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Some minor, mostly administrative, details

- The note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace XXXX is good. I
suggest another asking them to update the dates in the file and
revision clauses of the YANG module with the date of publication..

- Copyright is 2017

- the YANG module has six imports but no reference to where they can be
found. I suggest adding a reference clause to each import, as in e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model, and, since the reference clause cannot
contain a XML style reference to the Reference section of the I-D, a
further mention of these I-D/RFC in the body of the I-D, again as in
e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model

- RFC7223 now has a bis version which I think you should use as it is
the NMDA version - this might affect your augments, I have not delved
into that yet.

- RFC5246 is being obsoleted and ... perhaps not:-)

- RFC 6536 is being revised and will soon be in IETF Last Call

Tom Petch

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From: "The IESG" <iesg-***@ietf.org>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM
Post by The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Softwires WG (softwire) to consider
the following document: - 'A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)'
<draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> as Proposed Standard
The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
Abstract
This document defines a YANG module for the DS-Lite Address Family
Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4)
elements.
Post by The IESG
Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)
Please update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned to
o "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"
o "RFC XXXX: A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)";
o "reference: RFC XXXX"
The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/
IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/ballot/
Post by The IESG
No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
The document contains these normative downward references.
draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang: A YANG Module for Network Address
Translation (NAT) (None - IETF stream)
m***@orange.com
2018-02-20 13:34:17 UTC
Permalink
Hi Tom,

Thank you for the review and comments.

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med
-----Message d'origine-----
Envoyé : mardi 20 février 2018 12:07
Objet : Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A YANG Data
Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
Some minor, mostly administrative, details
- The note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace XXXX is good. I
suggest another asking them to update the dates in the file and
revision clauses of the YANG module with the date of publication..
[Med] Fixed in my local copy.
- Copyright is 2017
[Med] Updated to 2018 in my local copy.
- the YANG module has six imports but no reference to where they can be
found. I suggest adding a reference clause to each import, as in e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model,
[Med] Happily. Done.


and, since the reference clause cannot
contain a XML style reference to the Reference section of the I-D, a
further mention of these I-D/RFC in the body of the I-D, again as in
e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model
[Med] Given that almost all these pointers are already mentioned in the core text, I added only a sentence to refer to RFC7224.
- RFC7223 now has a bis version which I think you should use as it is
the NMDA version - this might affect your augments, I have not delved
into that yet.
[Med] Now that the 7223bis is in the RFC Editor queue, I updated the text.
- RFC5246 is being obsoleted and ... perhaps not:-)
[Med] Yeah, but RFC5246 is part of the recommended security text for YANG modules (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines). RFC5246 will be maintained till that reco is updated.
- RFC 6536 is being revised and will soon be in IETF Last Call
[Med] Actually, it will be published as RFC8341. I updated the text accordingly.
Tom Petch
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM
Post by The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Softwires WG (softwire) to
consider
Post by The IESG
the following document: - 'A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite
(DS-Lite)'
Post by The IESG
<draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> as Proposed Standard
The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final
Post by The IESG
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
be
beginning of
Post by The IESG
the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
Abstract
This document defines a YANG module for the DS-Lite Address Family
Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4)
elements.
Post by The IESG
Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)
Please update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned
to
Post by The IESG
o "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"
o "RFC XXXX: A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)";
o "reference: RFC XXXX"
The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/
IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/ballot/
Post by The IESG
No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
The document contains these normative downward references.
draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang: A YANG Module for Network Address
Translation (NAT) (None - IETF stream)
m***@orange.com
2018-02-27 07:13:28 UTC
Permalink
Hi Tom,

FWIW, an updated version which takes into account your review is available online.

The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-15

Cheers,
Med
-----Message d'origine-----
Envoyé : mardi 20 février 2018 14:34
À : tom p.
Objet : RE: Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A YANG Data
Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
Hi Tom,
Thank you for the review and comments.
Please see inline.
Cheers,
Med
-----Message d'origine-----
Envoyé : mardi 20 février 2018 12:07
softwire-
Objet : Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A YANG
Data
Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
Some minor, mostly administrative, details
- The note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace XXXX is good. I
suggest another asking them to update the dates in the file and
revision clauses of the YANG module with the date of publication..
[Med] Fixed in my local copy.
- Copyright is 2017
[Med] Updated to 2018 in my local copy.
- the YANG module has six imports but no reference to where they can be
found. I suggest adding a reference clause to each import, as in e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model,
[Med] Happily. Done.
and, since the reference clause cannot
contain a XML style reference to the Reference section of the I-D, a
further mention of these I-D/RFC in the body of the I-D, again as in
e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model
[Med] Given that almost all these pointers are already mentioned in the core
text, I added only a sentence to refer to RFC7224.
- RFC7223 now has a bis version which I think you should use as it is
the NMDA version - this might affect your augments, I have not delved
into that yet.
[Med] Now that the 7223bis is in the RFC Editor queue, I updated the text.
- RFC5246 is being obsoleted and ... perhaps not:-)
[Med] Yeah, but RFC5246 is part of the recommended security text for YANG
modules (https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines).
RFC5246 will be maintained till that reco is updated.
- RFC 6536 is being revised and will soon be in IETF Last Call
[Med] Actually, it will be published as RFC8341. I updated the text accordingly.
Tom Petch
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM
Post by The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Softwires WG (softwire) to
consider
Post by The IESG
the following document: - 'A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite
(DS-Lite)'
Post by The IESG
<draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> as Proposed Standard
The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final
Post by The IESG
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
be
beginning of
Post by The IESG
the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
Abstract
This document defines a YANG module for the DS-Lite Address Family
Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4)
elements.
Post by The IESG
Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)
Please update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned
to
Post by The IESG
o "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"
o "RFC XXXX: A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)";
o "reference: RFC XXXX"
The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/
IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/ballot/
Post by The IESG
No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
The document contains these normative downward references.
draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang: A YANG Module for Network Address
Translation (NAT) (None - IETF stream)
tom p.
2018-02-27 12:36:55 UTC
Permalink
Med

Two thoughts.

You have a reference clause for RFC8343 which is good, but it does not
appear in the Reference section of the I-D which I think it should. It
then needs to appear in the text part of the I-D lest you get a unused
reference warning, perhaps at the start of section 3, or else in section
2. (I like the approach of rfc7227bis which lists all the imports
together).

Second, when you say
" Also, update this sentence with the RFC number to be assigned to this
document:
o "RFC YYYY: A YANG Module for Network Address Translation (NAT) and
Network Prefix Translation (NPT)"
'this document' could be misread as
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang
rather than
I-D.ietf-opsawg-nat-yang
I suggest replacing 'this document' by ' ietf-opsawg-nat-yang'
I know, picky, but I like the RFC Editor to have to think as little as
possible so they can concentrate on what they do so well.

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
From: <***@orange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:13 AM
Post by m***@orange.com
Hi Tom,
FWIW, an updated version which takes into account your review is available online.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-15
Cheers,
Med
-----Message d'origine-----
Envoyé : mardi 20 février 2018 14:34
À : tom p.
softwire-
Post by m***@orange.com
Objet : RE: Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A
YANG Data
Post by m***@orange.com
Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
Hi Tom,
Thank you for the review and comments.
Please see inline.
Cheers,
Med
-----Message d'origine-----
Envoyé : mardi 20 février 2018 12:07
softwire-
Objet : Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A
YANG
Post by m***@orange.com
Data
Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
Some minor, mostly administrative, details
- The note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace XXXX is good.
I
Post by m***@orange.com
suggest another asking them to update the dates in the file and
revision clauses of the YANG module with the date of publication..
[Med] Fixed in my local copy.
- Copyright is 2017
[Med] Updated to 2018 in my local copy.
- the YANG module has six imports but no reference to where they can be
found. I suggest adding a reference clause to each import, as in e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model,
[Med] Happily. Done.
and, since the reference clause cannot
contain a XML style reference to the Reference section of the I-D, a
further mention of these I-D/RFC in the body of the I-D, again as in
e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model
[Med] Given that almost all these pointers are already mentioned in the core
text, I added only a sentence to refer to RFC7224.
- RFC7223 now has a bis version which I think you should use as it is
the NMDA version - this might affect your augments, I have not delved
into that yet.
[Med] Now that the 7223bis is in the RFC Editor queue, I updated the text.
- RFC5246 is being obsoleted and ... perhaps not:-)
[Med] Yeah, but RFC5246 is part of the recommended security text for YANG
modules
(https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines).
Post by m***@orange.com
RFC5246 will be maintained till that reco is updated.
- RFC 6536 is being revised and will soon be in IETF Last Call
[Med] Actually, it will be published as RFC8341. I updated the text accordingly.
Tom Petch
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM
Post by The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Softwires WG (softwire) to
consider
Post by The IESG
the following document: - 'A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite
(DS-Lite)'
Post by The IESG
<draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> as Proposed Standard
The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final
Post by The IESG
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
be
beginning of
Post by The IESG
the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
Abstract
This document defines a YANG module for the DS-Lite Address Family
Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4)
elements.
Post by The IESG
Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)
Please update these statements with the RFC number to be assigned
to
Post by The IESG
o "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"
o "RFC XXXX: A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite
(DS-Lite)";
Post by m***@orange.com
Post by The IESG
o "reference: RFC XXXX"
The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/
Post by m***@orange.com
Post by The IESG
IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/ballot/
Post by m***@orange.com
Post by The IESG
No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
The document contains these normative downward references.
draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang: A YANG Module for Network Address
Translation (NAT) (None - IETF stream)
m***@orange.com
2018-02-27 14:13:59 UTC
Permalink
Re-,

Thank you for double checking. Much appreciated!

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med
-----Message d'origine-----
Envoyé : mardi 27 février 2018 13:37
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN
Objet : Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A YANG Data
Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
Med
Two thoughts.
You have a reference clause for RFC8343 which is good, but it does not
appear in the Reference section of the I-D which I think it should.
[Med] Hmm. We do have such entry:

[I-D.ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis]
Bjorklund, M., "A YANG Data Model for Interface
Management", draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis-03 (work in
progress), January 2018.

It
then needs to appear in the text part of the I-D lest you get a unused
reference warning, perhaps at the start of section 3, or else in section
2. (I like the approach of rfc7227bis which lists all the imports
together).
Second, when you say
" Also, update this sentence with the RFC number to be assigned to this
o "RFC YYYY: A YANG Module for Network Address Translation (NAT) and
Network Prefix Translation (NPT)"
'this document' could be misread as
draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang
rather than
I-D.ietf-opsawg-nat-yang
I suggest replacing 'this document' by ' ietf-opsawg-nat-yang'
I know, picky, but I like the RFC Editor to have to think as little as
possible so they can concentrate on what they do so well.
[Med] If you think this can be misinterpreted, I'm happy to change it. I will fix it in my local copy but will wait for other comments from the IESG review before releasing a new version.
Tom Petch
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2018 7:13 AM
Post by m***@orange.com
Hi Tom,
FWIW, an updated version which takes into account your review is
available online.
Post by m***@orange.com
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-15
Cheers,
Med
-----Message d'origine-----
Envoyé : mardi 20 février 2018 14:34
À : tom p.
softwire-
Post by m***@orange.com
Objet : RE: Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A
YANG Data
Post by m***@orange.com
Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
Hi Tom,
Thank you for the review and comments.
Please see inline.
Cheers,
Med
-----Message d'origine-----
Envoyé : mardi 20 février 2018 12:07
softwire-
Objet : Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> (A
YANG
Post by m***@orange.com
Data
Module for Dual-Stack Lite (DS-Lite)) to Proposed Standard
Some minor, mostly administrative, details
- The note to the RFC Editor asking them to replace XXXX is good.
I
Post by m***@orange.com
suggest another asking them to update the dates in the file and
revision clauses of the YANG module with the date of publication..
[Med] Fixed in my local copy.
- Copyright is 2017
[Med] Updated to 2018 in my local copy.
- the YANG module has six imports but no reference to where they
can be
Post by m***@orange.com
found. I suggest adding a reference clause to each import, as in
e.g.
Post by m***@orange.com
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model,
[Med] Happily. Done.
and, since the reference clause cannot
contain a XML style reference to the Reference section of the I-D,
a
Post by m***@orange.com
further mention of these I-D/RFC in the body of the I-D, again as
in
Post by m***@orange.com
e.g.
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model
[Med] Given that almost all these pointers are already mentioned in
the core
Post by m***@orange.com
text, I added only a sentence to refer to RFC7224.
- RFC7223 now has a bis version which I think you should use as it
is
Post by m***@orange.com
the NMDA version - this might affect your augments, I have not
delved
Post by m***@orange.com
into that yet.
[Med] Now that the 7223bis is in the RFC Editor queue, I updated the
text.
Post by m***@orange.com
- RFC5246 is being obsoleted and ... perhaps not:-)
[Med] Yeah, but RFC5246 is part of the recommended security text for
YANG
Post by m***@orange.com
modules
(https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines).
Post by m***@orange.com
RFC5246 will be maintained till that reco is updated.
- RFC 6536 is being revised and will soon be in IETF Last Call
[Med] Actually, it will be published as RFC8341. I updated the text accordingly.
Tom Petch
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2018 2:28 PM
Post by The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Softwires WG (softwire)
to
Post by m***@orange.com
consider
Post by The IESG
the following document: - 'A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack
Lite
Post by m***@orange.com
(DS-Lite)'
Post by The IESG
<draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang-14.txt> as Proposed Standard
The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
solicits
Post by m***@orange.com
final
Post by The IESG
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
comments may
Post by m***@orange.com
be
beginning of
Post by The IESG
the Subject line to allow automated sorting.
Abstract
This document defines a YANG module for the DS-Lite Address
Family
Post by m***@orange.com
Post by The IESG
Transition Router (AFTR) and Basic Bridging BroadBand (B4)
elements.
Post by The IESG
Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor)
Please update these statements with the RFC number to be
assigned
Post by m***@orange.com
to
Post by The IESG
o "This version of this YANG module is part of RFC XXXX;"
o "RFC XXXX: A YANG Data Module for Dual-Stack Lite
(DS-Lite)";
Post by m***@orange.com
Post by The IESG
o "reference: RFC XXXX"
The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/
Post by m***@orange.com
Post by The IESG
IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-yang/ballot/
Post by m***@orange.com
Post by The IESG
No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
The document contains these normative downward references.
draft-ietf-opsawg-nat-yang: A YANG Module for Network
Address
Post by m***@orange.com
Translation (NAT) (None - IETF stream)
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